Multi-Level Marketing Scams

This has nothing to do with the ritual use of oils, it’s just something I keep running into in the oil business. I’ve seen it twice just today, people making outlandish and borderline dangerous claims about essential oils made by certain companies.

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There’s at least two, probably more, MLM scams involving essential oils. People sign up as “consultants,” buy the oils “wholesale,” and sell them to their friends. The problem is, both of these MLM companies make claims about essential oils in general, and their essential oils in particular, that just aren’t true. In addition, the markup on these oils – even “wholesale” – is something like 500%.

To recap what I’ve said before:

  • There are no purity standards for essential oils.
  • There is no certifying body for essential oils.
  • Both of the major MLM essential oil companies certify their own oils as pure.
  • Claiming that oils are objectively pure because they are subjected to Gas Chromatograph, Mass Spectrometer testing, and heavy metals analysis (by their own lab, naturally) is profoundly misleading.
  • Essential oils are not graded. Terms like therapeutic grade, aromatherapy grade, and fragrance grade have no meaning outside of being marketing buzzwords.
  • Essential oils should not be used undiluted on the skin, and should not be taken internally. Period, the end, no caveats or “except for….” statements.
  • There are no essential oils that have been certified as safe for consumption – see above, where there is no certifying body for essential oils.

In addition to all this, both of the major MLM essential oil companies overcharge for essential oils to a horrifying degree. An example:
Multi-level Marketing Company #1: 15ml Basil Essential Oil, $24.75
Multi-level Marketing Company #2: 15ml Basil Essential Oil, $26.67
Standard Essential Oil Seller: 15ml Basil Essential Oil, $4.09

That’s a difference of over $20 per bottle – for what? Nothing.

I find these multi-level marketing companies, and the claims their representatives make, to be really disturbing. For the record, there is no reason on EARTH to pay $25 or more for basil oil. It’s a scam, it’s a ripoff, and it upsets me that so many people are falling for it.

(Edited to add: I’ve been looking for the CropWatch report on “Therapeutic Essential Oils” for a while, since it was missing from their website. I’ve since found it on their website, but inaccessible other than via their cache, so I’m providing a copy of it here.)

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17 Responses to Multi-Level Marketing Scams

  1. Good article. Thank you for the information. I’m going to pass it along.

  2. Very true. MLM system is a very flawed marketing device.

  3. It is very evident by your statements that your education is very limited regarding essential oils. There are many reputable oil companies who are NOT MLM that sell oils for a price right in line with the MLM oils.
    Pure oils are hard to get and are expensive … period.
    Get educated about adulteration and world politics and you will understand how oils are priced.

    • Jen, my education regarding essential oils is pretty broad – oils are my business, after all. Adulteration is a huge problem in the business, with the lack of widespread testing and regulation, which is why it’s vital to know who you’re buying from and how they make their oils. Some oils ARE hard to get. Sandalwood is out of most people’s price range, because the tree is endangered. Rose absolute is incredibly expensive because it takes such a massive amount of plant material to make the oil. So I do understand that there are many expensive oils, and that there’s a good reason these oils are more expensive.
      What I’m pointing out here is that there are MLM companies selling certain oils for prices that in no way compare to the prices charged by reputable essential oil makers. I can understand charging a premium for an oil like Sandalwood, or even Cardamom – the plant material is expensive to get, the distillation process can be more complicated, and the resulting oil sells for a considerable sum more than other oils. But when it comes to oils like Basil, Peppermint, and other domestically-available plants, the prices of most essential oil makers are pretty standard. These oils aren’t expensive, because even completely pure and unadulterated, they’re commonly available plants and the distillation process is fairly uncomplicated. On the one hand, you have reputable oil-makers selling Basil oil for $5 (give or take) per 15ml. On the other hand, you have MLM companies selling the same oil (only it’s better, they claim, because they’ve tested it and certified it themselves) for $25.00.
      It doesn’t take a degree in world politics to recognize a scam. If a reputable oil company wants to charge $25 for 15ml of Basil oil, they’re certainly welcome to do so – but unless it’s distilled with the tears of angels by a group of vestal virgins, they’re charging the extra $20 because they can. Why should the MLMs be making all the cash from overpricing oils? As a business owner, I can see the appeal.
      Luckily, there’s plenty of reputable oil makers who deal in unadulterated, pure oils without the markup. While people are free to spend their money as they choose, spending an extra $20 on 15ml of a domestically available and easily distilled oil just because the company says it’s more pure and less adulterated than other oils seems a great way to waste money.

      • There is no “widespread testing and regulation” because essential oils are literally “snake-oil” and provide absolutely zero non placebic effects. There is only laymen speculation about their effectiveness at curing things that resolve themselves. When some one is “sick” as most of these websites claim, without any specific illness, they talk about trying other things, nothing works, and THEN the magical liquid that is completely ignored by science cures them. It wasn’t the fact that if they would have waited another couple days they would have gotten over it themselves, NO, it was your magic oil. I really wish companies that sell this crap would stop trying to fleece innocent, naive customers.

  4. Before using Young Living, I purchased Peppermint essential oil from a health food store. I am being completely honest in saying that after all I’ve learned and seen, I’d be afraid to even use the oil again. Luckily, when I did use it, I followed the instructions on the bottle that said to place on a wet washcloth and not to apply directly to skin (let alone even think of consuming).
    Then I was blessed to be introduced to Young Living essential oils and I can attest to many differences. First of all, the smell is completely different, and I’ve had many other people do the smell test. Pure peppermint smell with Young Living, compared to something very fake and unpure smelling. Next test was to do dowsing with a pendulum, or body sway testing, or muscle Kinesiology . I’ve seen all 3 done comparing Young Living Peppermint and a health food store brand which a holistic chiropractor agreed is known to be a decent brand. The other brand did not stand a chance and showed proof that it was not good for the body. Yet Young Living’s Peppermint essential oil (and a big majority of all of their essential oils) are safe enough even to be consumed. I had random people do the check that were not even distributor’s with Young Living, so this was an unbiased test.

    Why would I want to WASTE my money on an unsafe oil that could very potentially be MORE toxic to my body and cause me more damage than good? That other oil still sits unused, yet Young Living Peppermint has seen me through migraines, fevers, tummy aches, to “pep” me up when tired, cool me down, used in my diffuser with Purification, opens sinuses, pain, a drop added to my water, tea, hot chocolate, homemade candy, and so much more! I even used Young Living Peppermint oil ($19.75 for 15 ml bottle) and Young Living Clove essential oil ($14.75 for 15 ml bottle) to get rid of a very large ovarian cyst in no time! I had a repeat ultrasound about 10 days after using these oils and as my doctor said “it has disappeared completely…no where in site!” So having only used the oils once a day and some days twice for this short period of time, I obviously still had PLENTY left, so this was a very small cost. I actually felt it working in the first day or two. No pain, just a little tiny tinge letting me know it was working. I had not been able to get that cyst to budge and it had even grown in the 7-8 months since it first showed up. It was having me scared of needing another surgery as I’ve had in the past, or of it even rupturing which has also happened to me, so this was a miracle in my book.

    This is just ONE of the MANY ways that Young Living essential oils, supplements and products have made a true believer out of me who can attest first-hand to it’s high quality. My 3 yr old niece uses it for her fever, congestion, sinus, chronic ear infections. This has kept her from taking the antibiotics that they had her on every month from 6 months old to 1 yr old and they were ready to do surgery until I convinced my sister to try Young Living essential oils on her and my other 2 nieces (as well as herself). We also use Lavender on her from Young Living and when she was just 18 months old she hit her head on the edge of the steps and the Young Living Lavender kept her calm and the wound healed beautifully. Lavender also keeps her ears from needing surgery and from pain, severe infections and antibiotics. She loves the oils and I feel so blessed to have witnessed first-hand the many times it has helped her health and to have had a hand in this instead of seeing her go through surgery, and an endless road of antibiotics and side effects. I even got her 103% fever down, ear pain, tummy ache using Young Living essential oils and did not need an antibiotic, OTC or Tylenol. The Peppermint that I got at the health food store, I would not even trust on myself, let alone my 3 yr old niece (who has been using the oils well before the age of 3 with great results.) If the bottle states to place on wet washcloth and not directly on skin, then there must be something toxic and that is the last thing that I want or need.

    Yes, most essential oils are NOT safe to consume, but that is not the case with a big majority of Young Living essential oils. Why would I be able to consume Lemons from the store, but not Young Living essential oils? I have more worries about consuming from the store as it’s hard to find organic and very costly, and I’m more confident in Young Living’s standards.

    Recently when I was at their house, my old knee injury started flaring and making noise. My 3 yr old niece said, “you probably need an oil…maybe put some Peppermint on it.” I’ve even gotten her to stop crying and follow me up to bed by walking by her with my oils and telling her that if she stops crying and follows me she can smell my oils. She IMMEDIATELY stopped crying, followed me up to her bedroom, got herself on her bed and smelled the oils, closing her eyes and saying “mmmmm” every time, and asking to “put some on here, and on here, too.”

    These types of joys are priceless and witnessing all that Young Living has done for ourselves and loved ones and so many others are why Young Living is wise to be selling their oils through distributors who can share their stories with others and HELP our world become a better place by preventing more senseless downward spiral of our typical health care through educating others and spreading knowledge. I can’t tell you how many times I have WISHED that I had only known about Young Living many years ago. My 16 yr old daughter says the same, and sees how lucky my sister is that I introduced Young Living to her and her 3 girls. Oh, and by the way, I make no money from doing this, as I buy the oils for her at my wholesale price and have done the same for others. I have no downline to make money from, but that is not why I use Young Living. I have learned the hard way the difference of pure, high quality, high standard companies and products versus the many others out there. I’m not only referring to essential oil companies when I say this.

    Those that know me already know that I am ALWAYS sharing good health info and knowledge and advice. That is what I believe my calling to be and what God would expect of all of us. I would never want to see anyone suffer unnecessarily and be led down the wrong road when it comes to health like I was in the past from doctors, which only lead to a massive amount of health conditions, which I am now turning around naturally with the help of Young Living. I have turned down antibiotics, pain pills, muscle relaxants, migraine pills, and so on and instead paid out of pocket for Young Living.

    My daughter is a type 1 diabetic and both of us have allergies, asthma, low immune systems, stomach conditions (and I have MANY other health conditions), yet we haven’t been on an antibiotic or needed OTC’s since using Young Living. I am not diabetic, but do have blood sugar issues and have seen a great improvement in my glucose numbers and stabilization since using Young Living. I don’t want to see any other child have to go through something like being diagnosed with diabetes. Six months later when she then came down with mono they said that usually at her age (9 yrs old) they get mono from a low immune system. I often wonder how different things could have been had I known about Young Living when she was younger. I’m just so thankful that I do now, so when she has a tummy ache, problems with her allergies, illness, flu, cold, pain, injuries, cuts, etc. I can help her to heal and also boost her immune system instead of tearing it down more. Other than her insulin, she hasn’t needed OTC’s and prescription drugs. We’ve even stopped an illness in it’s tracks from becoming full-blown on the first day on many occasions.

    Anyway, I could go on and on, but in all fairness, I have read what you have said, and while I’m not here to down you at all, I would like to enlighten you with facts from the other side. Any good article, fair person, unbiased person, or journalist would let the other side weigh in, and I am speaking from truth and real experiences (could go on forever with even more). Not to mention, this is coming from someone who makes no money from Young Living, but does her best to share what she has learned and her own experiences to HELP others with their health…not to SELL them anything, and certainly not to be apart of some MLM scheme, which is simply not true.

    Something else to realize is that there is so much to learn and so much wonderful info out there on Young Living oils, that it would not be wise to be able to just purchase these oils in any other way as it would be a disservice to the consumer. It is the other distributors and meetings, conventions, shared information, uplines, trainings, Gary Young’s blogs, Young Living website, facebook page, etc that we learn so much valuable information. If we were to purchase the oils online in any other type of fashion or in a health food store, all this great info would not be as accessible or learned. Furthermore, when I want a high quality supplement, I always had to go through a compounding pharmacy or holistic chiropractor or health professional to purchase pharmaceutical grade supplements. It’s the same way with Young Living. Also, when you get a wholesale account, your distributor kit comes with lots of brochures, DVD’s, etc to learn from. Perhaps if you read some, you’d learn some of the high standards, practices and procedures that they go through from “seed to seal” with their essential oils.

    Please read Dr David Stewart’s info below, to learn the facts in regards to Young Living. Thank you.

    All my best,
    Mary Jo Cramer
    Young Living Distributor ID# 1148381

    “Reprinted from The Raindrop Messenger, a free online newsletter, with permission from Dr. David Stewart. To subscribe or download back issues, visit http://www.RaindropTraining.com.”;

    1. Twelve Questions to Ask Those Who Invite You to
    Join Another Company
    by David Stewart

    We are finding ourselves more frequently approached by competing essential oil companies to sell and promote their brand. They always claim to have “pure therapeutic grade” oils “as good or better than those of Young Living.” Maybe they do and maybe they don’t. Here are some questions to ask when approached by another essential oil company.

    1. Does their company own any farms on which to raise herbs for oils? And if they do, are they new farms on land formerly polluted with herbicides, pesticides, and chemicals that contain residuals from the past, or are they farming land that is clean, which has never been cultivated or has been untilled for at least the last 50 years?

    2. Does their company have their own fully equipped testing laboratory to verify an oil’s composition?

    3. Do they have anyone on staff with a trained nose who can analyze oils by their smell? (There are less than 200 people in the world with noses sufficiently trained to discern the chemistry of a fragrance.)

    4. If their company purchases oils from outside suppliers, do they visit the distilleries and farms of those suppliers periodically to observe if the herbs are grown organically, i.e. without pesticides, herbicides, or chemical fertilizers?

    5. Do they know if the grower has a testing laboratory on the farm to determine when the crop is at its peak for oil harvesting?

    6. Do they know if the crops were actually harvested at their peak time and, if so, was there an inordinant delay in taking them to the still and into the cookers?

    7. Do they know if their distillery personnel understand the art and science of distilling, exactly how to pack the cookers, how to administer the steam, how to maintain minimum temperatures and pressures throughout the cooker, and how to continuously monitor the process throughout distillation to make sure the oil produced contains all of its components in the proper proportions?

    8. If their supplier makes a mistake in the distillation or harvesting processes that results in an inferior grade of oil, does that supplier sell the oil anyway or do they discard it?

    9. Do they know if the the cookers in the distilleries of their suppliers have domed lids or cone shaped lids? Most stills use dome-shaped lids. Cone topped cookers deliver a better grade of oil than dome tops.

    10. Do they know if their suppliers supplement the distillation process with solvents to exatract additional oil from the plant matter?

    11. Do they know if their suppliers bottle their oils directly from the distillery without modifying the composition of the natural oil by adding anything or taking anything away?

    12. Do they know if their company has tested their company’s oils side by side with Young Living oils in the same lab to make a fair comparison? And if so, where is the data?

    This is not a comprehensive list of questions you could ask, but if their answer to any or most of the above is “no,” or “I don’t know,” then how do they know their oils are “pure therapeutic grade” and that they are “as good or better than those of Young Living?” Without such knowledge, how can they make any verifiable claims that compare Young Living Oils with their brand?

    With Young Living, you know that the answer to all of these questions is “Yes.”

    Young Living owns and operates four large farms in Utah, Idaho, France, and Ecuador, all of which were clean and free of chemicals for at least 50 years before Young Living agreed to buy the land. In fact, the land in Idaho had never been farmed before Young Living, and the Ecuador farm is being cleared from primitive jungle, free from human contamination for thousands of years.

    Young Living also has an expertly staffed, fully equipped laboratory for testing oils including a gas chromatograph, a mass spectrometer, and other equipment whose value adds up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Young Living also has small labs on their farms to test the plants right from the field as they mature to determine the exact season and time of day to harvest the crop for the best oil. This is necessary because plants change their chemistry throughout the season and throughout the day, varying from week to week and hour to hour.

    Gary Young is one of the few people in the world who can smell an oil and tell you what compounds are present, which are missing, and in what quantities. An essential oil company needs a person like that to check every batch of oil to make sure it is up to therapeutic standards. Such people can discern certain aspects of oil chemistry that a laboratory cannot measure.

    Young Living markets more than 100 species of oils and cannot possible raise them all on their own farms. When they purchase from other growers and suppliers, they not only may initial site visits to verify that the oils are being produced and packaged properly, but they have a program of making repeated visits from time to time to make sure the standards are being upheld.

    Gary Young has personally trained his distillers in the art of distilling. Besides the science to know exactly how to pack the cookers but the still operator must also learn the art of how to listen to the sounds of the steam inside the cooker and to be able to feel the outside of the cooker and diagnose how things are going inside to determine what adjustments need to be made.

    Young Living distills oils at minimum pressures and temperatures to gently coax the oil and all of its compounds into the finished product, even though significant money, time, and labor can be saved by distilling at high pressures and high temperatures, like many companies do. High pressure/high temperature distillation may produce an oil with the fragrance compounds of an oil, but not with the therapeutic compounds. Young Living never uses solvents to finish off the distilling process as many companies do.

    By climbing inside of an actual cooker and visually noting the patterns of steam flow, Gary Young was able to determine that a dome-shaped lid caused the oil-bearing steam to curl and back flow into the plant mass, thus altering the chemistry and losing some constituents, while a cone-shaped lid allowed the steam to spiral directly up, out, and into the condenser without turbulence.

    Many of the techniques and skills applied in growing and distilling Young Living oils are trade secrets, known only to Gary Young and his trusted employees.

    Young Living oils are bottled as they emerge from the still in their complete natural state without adulteration (adding compounds) or refinement (removing compounds).

    In a few instances when mistakes were made and a batch of oil grown and distilled by Young Living did not measure up to Gary Young’s standards, the oil was discarded, poured out on the ground. Some companies would have sold such oil anyhow, if not to their customers, then to another retailer. Young Living will never do that. They would rather be in short supply of a given species than to market an inferior product.

    While you are asking questions to another company representative, you might also ask how long they have been in business? Young Living was founded in 1991. Gary bought its first farm in 1992 near St. Maries, Idaho, and its second farm in 1995 near Mona, Utah. Gary Young and the company are
    committed to ensuring a current and future supply of top grade essential oils indefinitely into the future.

    If you ever get the opportunity, visit a Young Living farm and distillery and you will begin to see for yourself the care and dedication it takes to produce the finest essential oils in the world.

    The factors that make Young Living unique and outstanding in the world of essential oil companies are so numerous they cannot all be presented in an article like this. When your life and your health are depending on it, you cannot afford to use oils whose chemistry and origins are uncertain. I have complete trust in the quality and integrity of Young Living oils. That is why I will neither use nor consider any other brand.

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    2. How Do You Know Your Helichrysum is Good?
    by David Stewart, PhD

    Helichrysum is a universal essential oil, high in antioxidants, with numerous applications. It is also expensive to produce. Useful oils that are expensive to produce create a temptation on the part of oil suppliers to cheat in various ways. They can take a real oil and dilute it with a colorless, oderless substance. They can extract the oil from a similar plant species that is inexpensive to grow and distill, and then manipulate it into what may appear as a more exotic oil by deleting certain constituents or adding synthetic compounds to imitate the fragrance or taste of the expensive oil they wish to imitate. They may also cut costs in the distillation by doing so at high temperatures and high pressures that significantly reduces the distillation time and, thus, saves labor and fuel. They may also extract some oils by petrochemical solvents which leave toxic traces in the finished oil. Clever chemists can also construct a synthetic oil by combining the compounds in a laboratory that comprise the fragrance of an oil, but omitting the compounds that are oderless and do not participate in the fragrance, thus imitating the smell, but not the full constituency of the oil. All of these shortcuts and deceptions result in oils that may fulfill flavor or fragrance standards, even the AFNOR standard, but which lack the full suite of compounds necessary for the oil to have healing properties.

    Helichrysum (Helichrysum italicum) is also known as Everlastinng and Immortelle. It is a member of the Aster/Daisy Family of plants. It has traditionally been wild-crafted, meaning gathered from the wild instead of cultivated. The oil comes from its flowers. It only grows in certain altitudes and climates.

    The main ingredient in Helichrysum oil is neryl acetate (25-50%). Gary Young believes this compound is key to Helichrysum’s amazing therapeutic benefits. Neryl acetate has no detectable fragrance. The fragrance of Helichrysum is mainly from two ketones in the oil: italidione (15-20% and beta-diketone (1-2%), both of which are unique to Helichrysum, not being found in any other oil. Neryl acetate, however, is found in many oils in minor or trace amounts. Neroli, Rose, and Petitgrain contain 1-3% neryl acetate while Bergamot, Lavandin, Melissa and Myrtle contain 0-1%. Helichrysum stands apart from all other oils in the large concentration of neryl acetate it contains, considerably higher than any other oil.

    Helichrysum also contains a significant quantity of sesquiterpenes (10-20%), mainly curcumene and caryophylene which may help regulate blood pressure and cholesterol and may have other beneficial properties. However, these sesquiterpenes have little or no fragrance and don’t contribute significantly to the aroma of Helichrysum. There is also l-limonene (8-13%), a monoterpene that adds an evergreen or pine-like note to the aroma of Helichrysum. Another key compound in Helichrysum is eugenol (1-2%), a phenol with anesthetic properties that contributes to the oil’s pain-relieving properties and adds a hint of clove to the aroma. There is also a minor amount of 1,8 cineol (1-2%) that adds a camphor-like fragrace to the oil. In addition to these main ingredients, there are more than a hundred other trace compounds, all of which have to be there for Helichrysum to provide the full spectrum of healing properties for which it is known. VIrtually none of these other compounds contribute to the fragrance.

    Therefore, one could synthesize a pretty good imitation of Helichrysum in a laboratory that would closely mimic its fragrance, but contain none of its therapeutic qualities. Just combine the right proportions of synthetic italidione, beta-diketone, l-limonene, eugenol, and 1,8 cineol and you would have an oil that, to most people, would smell exactly like Helichrysum, but at a fraction of the cost of natural Helichrysum. In fact, you could increase the percent of 1,8 cineol a little, or add a little camphor, and the oil would have a stronger, more intense fragrance than therapeutic grade Helichrysum that might fool you into thinking that it was a better, stronger, more potent grade than the real thing.

    However, a person with a trained nose would not be fooled and would know the difference right away. While neryl acetate has no fragrance, its presence in Helichrysum in its natural proportions of 25-50% alters the fragrance of all of the other ingredients. Thus, a fragrance expert can tell if neryl acetate is missing or in too low a concentration by the overall bouquet of the fragrance from all the other constituents. There are few people in the world who can do this.

    Some time ago, Young Living received what was to have been a year’s supply of Helichrysum. As soon as Gary Young smelled it, he knew that neryl acetate, the main ingredient, was missing. He reported his analysis to Dr. Sue Chow, the head chemist in the Young Living Testing Laboratory who did an analysis. Sure enough, Gary was right. There was no neryl acetate.

    So Gary rejected the shipment and returned it to the supplier. He refused to market a false oil to Young Living distributors, even though no one would have known unless they had an expert nose like Gary’s or a $100,000 gas chromatograph to analyze it. That shipment was refused even though this meant that Young Living would have to do without Helichrysum for an extended period of time. Such is the integrity of Young Living and its founder.

    However, that batch of false Helichrysum was not wasted. When it went back to its supplier, it was sold to another company who markets it as therapeutic grade Helichrysum. Either that company lacks the technical expertise to recognize a manipulated, non-therapeutic grade of oil and has been duped by its wholesaler, or that company knows better but lacks sufficient integrity to refuse to peddle a fraud.

    So how do you know your Helichrysum is good? Unless you have the nose for it or the advanced laboratory equipment to analyze it, you can’t know. Ultimately, you may be able to find out by trial and error by seeing if you get therapeutic results from the oil or not. But testing the authenticity of an oil by clinical trials is difficult and time-consuming requiring some skill in applying the scientific method. In the end, you can only know the quality of your oil by knowing a supplier who can identify the purity of a therapeutic grade oil and whom you can trust.

    In Young Living we have both the know-how and the integrity. When you buy Young Living Helichrysum, you know it is good. Any other brand is anyone’s guess.

    • I am happy to approve this comment, so it may serve as an example of the kind of brainwashing that Young Living distributors undergo. Remember that no essential oil has been approved by the FDA for consumption, that Young Living’s testing is all done by their own labs, they certify their own oils as pure, that Young Living is not working in a regulated industry, and that Gary Young been convicted of practicing medicine without a license.

      If Young Living told me the sky was blue, I’d check. For the record, here’s the Quackwatch report on Gary Young:
      http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/young.html

  5. I have only heard of Young Living. I just noticed quack watch was used. That is a joke! I use Standard Process products and they have changed my families life. They too are listed on quack watch. So, maybe I should start researching all my stuff on quack watch, this guy has great products listed. ;)

    • I don’t suppose you actually READ the material at Quackwatch about Standard Process, aka Vitamin Products Company? While they may be a legitimate vitamin company now, their past antics make for interesting reading.

  6. Interesting reading above isn’t it? I personally find it most interesting that an essential oil distributor of any kind is actually mentioning the FDA in a friendly familiar term and standing by them. Most the holistic dealers I know laugh at the FDA as we know they are a joke in itself. You claim you sell essential oils and usually those that sell it also use their products and believe in them. I don’t sense that at all from your writings. Why? Because your very jargon is not in line with someone that indeed does believe in the “type” of product you say to sell. Simply put, this “duck” does not quack nor waddle as a duck should, therefore, I call FOUL sir.

    • I’m…..just going to leave this comment here as yet another example of just how far down the rabbit hole some of this Young Living stuff goes. I refer to the FDA, therefore I don’t know anything about oils, plus I don’t talk right about oils therefore I don’t really sell them or know anything about them. My jargon is wrong.
      Also, I’m apparently a duck. And a man, to boot. Who knew?

  7. I’m curious about your thoughts on doterra essential oils? I’ve heard that they do third party testing, not sure if it is legit. I’ve used their lavender and sandlewood oils which seem nicer compared to some other brands and I’m willing to pay more because I prefer the way they smell. I really can’t stand their marketing and as a health care professional it all sounds like a scheme to me.

    I’ve read that lavender oil may increase GABA, similar to the way some benzos work. I wonder if making tea from dried lavender might be a safe way to get the calming effect because I’m not really into taking the oil internally? I appreciate the info on young living, I assume that doterra has the same craziness going on but I will probably still buy a couple of their oils that I enjoy the smell. I would love to hear any news you have about their company. Thanks!

    • I don’t know much about doTerra, except that they’re another pyramid scheme. Can’t attest to the quality of their oils, but I do know that like Young Living, they inflate the prices on them. Still, if you can get it easily, and if you’re satisfied with the quality, there’s no reason not to use those oils, as far as I’m concerned.
      The issue is finding an essential oil provider that you trust. For some people, that’s Young Living or doTerra and that’s *awesome* for them. They like the oils, it works for them, end of story. Where I start having issues is when the companies (and distributors) start making misleading claims, or providing information that they know to be incorrect, and manage to convince whole swathes of otherwise rational people that these particular oils are the ONE TRUE ESSENTIAL OIL and no others deserve the title. That’s the part that bugs me.
      Really, all you have to do is read some of the comments on this entry to see just how far the Young Living rabbit hole goes. I don’t publish the email that I get about this blog entry, but some of the stuff would curl your hair. Huge long screeds about how I’ve been duped, I’m a shill for the FDA, I’m not really an oil user, etc. If I hadn’t been convinced Young Living was a scam before, the way the distributors behave when someone criticizes the business model and prices would set off a lot of alarms.
      I have heard – and this is not a recommendation to do this, just something that I have heard about – that people have used lavender in soothing tea blends to good effect. Do you have anyone around you who’s experienced in herbcraft or wildcrafting? They might be able to give you some suggestions – I know that I use a tea that’s basically an infusion of motherwort with some licorice root for flavor for four days a month and it greatly lessens cramps and pain. Have you tried Mountain Rose Herbs? They have a lot of really good information on their site and may well have information on taking lavender internaly.

  8. I know a lot the only people who benefit in a MLM company are the ones at the top. There is also an eery cult like aspect that is disturbing. I’ve found better oils, much cheaper-minus the hype.

  9. How many things have been approved by the FDA and have later been found out to cause birth defects, etc.? While EO’s are not regulated I sure as heck trust something from the earth more than something manufactured from chemicals that is supposedly safe. While I don’t particularly like mlm companies, I do use doterra oils because I have found them to be more effective and pure than others. And I don’t actively sell them, I use them only for my own personal use, so no need to accuse me of being brainwashed. Bottom line is, we must be vigilant and careful with anything we ingest or use on our bodies. If the lavender oil takes your nailpolish off (yes true story) then I wouldn’t use it internally or topically, or really at all! If the oil helps and soothes and does what it’s supposed to with no apparent negative side effects, then proceed cautiously.

  10. Interesting points of view. As a trained herbalist studying aromatherapy and a licensed massage therapist for over twenty years I have to say be careful of outrageous claims, esp. by companies that are MLM. If the label doesn’t have certified organic, it is not organic. Under no circumstances should anyone be consuming essential internally. If you want to make a tissane with the herb (flower, roots, leaves) that is so completely different than a essential oil. I’m a little alarmed hearing that people are applying essential oils undiluted to the skin. Very few essential oils can be applied neat. I suppose if you have excellent liability insurance, you can do what you want. It is very important that you communicate with your client and do a thorough intake form.

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